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MIT Heavy Metal 101: History of Heavy Metal, Part I (2022) - Shared screen with speaker view
Rex Buffchest
06:17
Sup buds!
Symmetry (they/them)
06:59
i just barely woke up in time for this class and it’s 6:30pm
Symmetry (they/them)
07:19
(in my defense, i had work at 5 in the morning and got less than 2 hours of sleep last night and needed a nap)
Hell Hammer
08:30
Electric Wizard early 2020
Colin Brumley
08:36
Vic Wooten at the Boston Symphony!
Sebastian Castro
08:42
Inter Arma earlier this year
Filipa Duarte
08:45
VOA FEST - Slipknot, Trivium, While She Sleeps, July 2019
Paul Shain
08:49
A few months ago … Claid Sleaves
Akemi Nishimura
08:50
Sakanaction (Japanese band) December 2021
Timur Garipov
08:54
KISS in Mansfield, MA, August 2021
Sebastian Castro
08:59
Middle east upstairs!
Trevor Stricker
09:00
Pre-pandemic summer with Liz. Iron Maiden
Kim Mohareb
09:12
last live show was JINJER in Boston- November 2021.
Rex Buffchest
09:22
I think it’s still municipal waste…
Fabio Castro
09:32
Iron Maiden + Scorpion + Sepultura + Helloween, in Rock in Rio 2019
Kim Mohareb
09:33
hoping to go to Dark tranquillity January 30...…
Greg Lowney
09:44
It's been a few years, but mostly non-metal, Seattle bands.
Sebastian Castro
10:08
Dir en Grey -- best metal band ever, I love them
Sebastian Castro
10:37
^ didn't see them live, just saying they're a great Japanese band
Symmetry (they/them)
10:54
Intervals in december!! i’ve seen him at least 5 times, one of my all-time favorite artists. at the previous Intervals show i went to in 2019, Aaron Marshall gave me a free t-shirt, and then he REMEMBERED me from 2 years ago
Akemi Nishimura
11:05
Sakanaction: https://youtu.be/uUDpLkh7IFY
Symmetry (they/them)
11:09
it was also to see Cryptodira opening for him. they put out one of my favorite albums of 2020
Rex Buffchest
11:15
Word
Timur Garipov
11:25
Was supposed to see Judas Priest in MA Fall 2021, but it was canceled due to Richie Faulkner having heart attack
Hell Hammer
12:30
Priest coming back now as a 4 piece, 1 guitar...not sure how, but was announced this week
Fabio Castro
12:49
Rock in Rio had very nice shows every 2 years. Now I’m in Boston, I don’t know if there are festivals around
Trevor Stricker
13:22
For sure there are!
Trevor Stricker
13:31
Not during pandemic though
Timur Garipov
13:44
@Hell Hammer, wow, JP with 1 guitar, that’s interesting
Hell Hammer
14:37
Tenacious D !
Trevor Stricker
14:41
Oh that was announced? I missed it.
Trevor Stricker
14:58
I guess that's a risk of our metal heroes getting old... (but wasn't Richie the young one?)
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
15:48
On it, and also late...
Hell Hammer
15:56
will be with Richie on guitar, Andy Sneap is out
Rex Buffchest
18:10
Need to get that show info!
Hell Hammer
18:26
Who kinks
Paul Shain
21:11
Is he holding his sticks like a rock drummer rather than a jazz drummer?
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
21:42
he's holding unorthodox
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
21:50
orthodox is jazz, yeah
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
22:59
i can't describe this well, but this is what orthodox looks like :) https://benwoollacott.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Trad-2-1024x522.jpg
Hell Hammer
26:36
what about The Beatles - Helter Skelter ?
Paul Shain
28:07
Bass player not wearing sleeves!
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
28:12
fuzzy guitars, driving groove drums, shouting
Trevor Stricker
28:32
It sounds like a high school metal band covering a folk song...
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
28:39
i love this artwork
Hell Hammer
28:54
psychedelia, distortion, down tuned
Paul Shain
29:01
Yeah. Original version was more folkie.
Trevor Stricker
29:11
Growers of Mushroom by Leaf Hound... I mean... you need to have plausible deniability to qualify as a double entendre.
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
30:12
yeah leaf hound, those figures are haunting
Hell Hammer
31:53
classical = metal without electricity
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
31:58
ha
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
32:06
'acoustic metal'
Trevor Stricker
32:23
Do violins play power chords? 🤔
Fabio Castro
32:32
Vivaldi’s Summer 🤘
Trevor Stricker
32:53
"Yngwie Unplugged"
Kim Mohareb
33:02
I love metal -from Maria
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
33:12
Yeah Trevor you can play power chords on violin, alright
Hell Hammer
33:59
Apocalyptica is like the opposite
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
34:24
...i wanna see them march to this
Hell Hammer
37:16
lower left DP
Paul Shain
37:16
top is Deep Purple?
Akemi Nishimura
37:30
lower is DP?
Fabio Castro
37:32
top is dp
Trevor Stricker
37:32
Top deep purple? Looks like string switches when it jumps a lot.
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
37:34
bottom is uniform so i'l guess it is vivaldi
Filipa Duarte
37:39
I would guess top vivaldi
Kris Engel
37:41
Too is Vivaldi?
Emily Fan
37:42
Bottom. Vivaldi??
CIRANO SHIBUYA
37:51
top dp
Trevor Stricker
39:57
Named after an Italian horror film
Hell Hammer
41:12
the inner gatefold has an upside-down cross
Trevor Stricker
42:11
They have sleeves. Definitely not metal.
Hell Hammer
42:12
long hair was hippie
Symmetry (they/them)
42:22
leather, but it’s not black...
Fabio Castro
42:22
mean-looking face
Trevor Stricker
42:24
They look like a psychedelic band that didn't commit.
Ravi Gupya
42:27
Crosses are right side up x not metal
Akemi Nishimura
42:27
They have a cross to image heavy metal
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
42:35
they're wearing ankhs! very ankhsty
Kris Engel
42:56
Leather jackets
Greg Lowney
43:10
They don't look metal, very common hair for the time, and colorful. Limited black.
Kim Mohareb
43:30
they look nice
Greg Lowney
43:33
Oops, have to run; I'll catch the recording later. Good luck!
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
47:38
wow i wonder what a typical gauge was beforehand... i always played with 10s
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
48:03
it's super poetic
Fabio Castro
51:35
He wrote a book about health tips
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
51:47
Ozzy Osbourne was an inspiration to me and is I attribute to him on how I ended up in the USA (I'm from UK originally)
Hell Hammer
51:55
bat blood
Frank Liu
52:08
George church writing a grant about ozzy
Trevor Stricker
54:44
Ozzy's real name is... John? Ozzy == nickname
Hell Hammer
55:02
Jinx is still around, I think she put out a Coven album in 2021
Trevor Stricker
55:03
They sound like Peter Paul and Mary go dark
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
55:10
hahaha
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
55:21
she's got great eyebrows
Hell Hammer
55:44
does not sound like metal
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
55:48
reminds me quite a bit of The Doors
Fabio Castro
55:59
Just missing distorted guitar
Timur Garipov
56:09
They sound a bit like Shocking Blue but with darker lyrics
Trevor Stricker
56:10
Sounded to me like 60s rock but with "evil"
Kris Engel
56:20
Who’s that poor fella next to her ?
Kris Engel
56:28
💀
Trevor Stricker
56:37
Zing @kris
Frank Liu
57:06
(also yep coven's playing a live show at MD doom fest this year :) )
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
57:20
yeah i'd never heard of them before you mentioned them yesterday, and Coven is such a killer name, too
Filipa Duarte
57:30
Charles manson
Trevor Stricker
57:48
I saw Once Upon a Time in Hollywood...
Kris Engel
57:50
Imagine gazing into those eyes..
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
58:29
was this the first satanic panic? i only know of the one from the 80s
Hell Hammer
58:50
first was probably the inquisition then the witch trials
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
58:59
hahaha i mean in modern memory, but sure
Trevor Stricker
59:11
Whoah... it's like the 60s version of a sex tape
Hell Hammer
01:00:22
amazing song!
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:01:41
MD?
Trevor Stricker
01:01:54
Rob looks like a guy I had 18.03 with...
Frank Liu
01:02:07
@chris Maryland
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:02:54
oh duh. thanks
Ravi Gupya
01:05:04
Bill ward left too with ozzy
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:05:24
neoclassicism for sure
Joe Diaz
01:05:29
Thanks Ravi!
Hell Hammer
01:05:46
Sabbath w/ Ozzy= social commentary, lyrics mostly written by Geezer; Sabbath w/ Dio mostly fantasy, lyrics mostly written by Dio
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:05:56
great vocal performance
Trevor Stricker
01:06:13
Was Geezer the lyric writer @hell? I'm not familiar enough with Sabbath.
Hell Hammer
01:06:19
Bill Ward played on this album (H&H), then leftr
Trevor Stricker
01:06:57
As someone who got into metal post-Dio, I always felt that Ozzy Sabbath sounded like the thing that led to metal, and Dio Sabbath sounded like metal.
Ravi Gupya
01:07:13
Oh I guess Vinny took over for the tour
Hell Hammer
01:08:18
yup
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:08:38
this is the 80s?
Ravi Gupya
01:08:53
Early 80s
Hell Hammer
01:08:53
1979+
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:08:58
kk
Frank Liu
01:09:02
sounds delightful
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:09:53
i've aways kinda seen motorhead as hard rock, even punk
Hell Hammer
01:10:01
NWOBHM = punk w/ better musicians
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:10:31
(good religious connection: lemmy's father was a ...father
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:11:31
i didn't know diamond head were british!
Trevor Stricker
01:12:21
West Midlands, I think?
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:12:28
wowza
Trevor Stricker
01:13:18
Lego Iron Maiden? genius!
Trevor Stricker
01:13:22
Show the clip!
Frank Liu
01:17:02
Curious about why we call USPM power metal, when their sound is more aligned with earlier heavy metal + maybe some doom metal?
Hell Hammer
01:17:20
Manowar is very power metal
Frank Liu
01:17:34
true about manowar.
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:17:36
power metal is more upbeat, right?
Hell Hammer
01:18:01
PM is more fantastical / progressive
Symmetry (they/them)
01:18:29
not specifically my opinion (i don’t listen to enough power metal to have an opinion on it), but i’ve frequently heard power metal described as “cheesy”
Frank Liu
01:18:30
last year?
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:18:38
same, symmetry
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:18:52
rhapsody, etc
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:19:12
it tends, to my telling, to be much more major-key
Trevor Stricker
01:19:26
Is that a trumpet synthesizer?
Frank Liu
01:19:28
it's mostly cheesy and it rules (for the most part)
Hell Hammer
01:19:44
melodic
Frank Liu
01:19:49
(sorry that was @symmetry, but I guess it applies for the song too)
Trevor Stricker
01:19:50
When "cheesy" rules it's called "anthemic"
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:20:00
ha
Fabio Castro
01:20:44
Gamma Ray came from Helloween, right?
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:20:45
power metal is always very naval to me, like pirate music
Kim Mohareb
01:20:54
so much freedom!
Ravi Gupya
01:20:57
Yup Kai Hansen founded both
Trevor Stricker
01:21:06
Accept is like the European AC/DC!
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:22:12
that 'snare hit on the 2s' kills my brain
Hell Hammer
01:22:18
in fact, Accept's I'm a Rebel was written by Alex Young for AC/DC
Timur Garipov
01:22:29
I always thought about Accept as “speed metal”
Trevor Stricker
01:22:40
That true @hell? 🧠🤯
Hell Hammer
01:23:53
@Trevor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_a_Rebel
Trevor Stricker
01:25:32
wait wait wait... if you play one Slayer track it should be Criosis
Hell Hammer
01:25:35
you're excluding East Coast Thrash???
Frank Liu
01:25:40
the bay area thrash metaller to conspiracy nuts pipeline
Trevor Stricker
01:25:56
Yeah @hell, what about Anthrax? The Philadelphia scene?
Kim Mohareb
01:25:57
how can you start raining blood without postmortem first is the question ;)
Trevor Stricker
01:26:08
Ah... good question @kim
Kim Mohareb
01:26:22
RIP slayer
Hell Hammer
01:26:23
Overkill, Anthrax, Nuclear Assault...
Kim Mohareb
01:26:29
the world went to hell after you quit
Trevor Stricker
01:27:36
Back when "fat stacks" meant towers of Marshalls
Trevor Stricker
01:28:16
Every artist changes, no? Especially over the course of 40 years.
Timur Garipov
01:28:37
@Trevor except AC/DC
Hell Hammer
01:28:47
Metallica (love 'em or hate 'em) they probably brought more people to metal than any other band
Trevor Stricker
01:29:05
Haha, that's true @Timur
Trevor Stricker
01:29:49
40 year old me respects Metallica for not staying trapped in the Amber of '82 Thrash. What's Exodus done for us lately?
Hell Hammer
01:30:48
@Trevor I generally agree about Exodus, but new album (2 months old) is pretty good
Trevor Stricker
01:31:01
(Not Black Album Joe, Black _List_ )
Trevor Stricker
01:31:21
Oh I didn't check it out @Hell. That's my work music tomorrow!
Hell Hammer
01:31:42
@Trevor Exodus - Persona Non Grata
Rex Buffchest
01:32:54
Grandma?
Ekanem Okeke
01:33:09
i’m curious how people generally draw the distinction between metal and rock
Hell Hammer
01:33:14
seem like nice girls LOL
Kim Mohareb
01:33:27
The TV show Rock of Love..never forget...…. dear god
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:34:01
i would say no, but i also totally see how it is
Hell Hammer
01:34:08
Parents "turn down that metal"
Trevor Stricker
01:34:10
If it was 1987 we probably would have made fun of the poser...
Rex Buffchest
01:34:12
Or .. daisy of love…
Hell Hammer
01:35:04
main drive for commercialization was to expand the audience to more than just dudes
Hell Hammer
01:35:29
bon jovi
Trevor Stricker
01:35:30
New Jersey!
Rex Buffchest
01:35:45
Gross
Kim Mohareb
01:36:31
gotta run, until next time! thanks Joe!
Ekanem Okeke
01:36:53
i know genres are a bit hard to distinguish between, but what differentiates between rock and metal in your opinion?
Hell Hammer
01:37:33
rock vs. metal is subjective to the listener and the timing...e.g. AC/DC WAS metal, now classic rock
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:38:07
yeah it's kind of a moving target, i agree
Trevor Stricker
01:38:15
SENJUTSU
Ravi Gupya
01:38:16
IMO Metal saturates the soundscape more than rock. Not as much room to breathe soundwise
Trevor Stricker
01:38:37
Oh that's a good thought @Ravi. I'd never pictured it that way.
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:38:49
Thanks again, this was rad! I'm off to see Tool \m/
Frank Liu
01:39:00
have fun Chris!
Rex Buffchest
01:39:08
Very true, I think slipknot is played on some rock stations as well. Maybe as songs gain popularity can crossover to rock…
CHRISTOPHER FLOYD
01:39:14
i can't wait - never seen them before. satisfying a teenage dream
Trevor Stricker
01:39:18
Ta @Chris!
Steven Hanford
01:41:21
Thanks Joe!
Symmetry (they/them)
01:41:21
thank YOU Joe!!!!
Hell Hammer
01:41:22
great job!
Rodrigo Ipince
01:41:24
thank you!
Trevor Stricker
01:41:28
🤘🤘🤘
Shelly Upton
01:41:31
thanks joe!
Joe Diaz
01:41:31
https://bit.ly/mitmetalslack2022
Filipa Duarte
01:41:31
Thank you so much! Byeee!!
Frank Liu
01:41:32
Thanks Joe :)
Mishael Quraishi
01:41:32
Thank you!!
Ekanem Okeke
01:41:33
thank you!
Symmetry (they/them)
01:41:34
stay warm everyone
Fabio Castro
01:41:36
Thanks, man, great!
Joe Diaz
01:41:42
https://turntable.fm/61dcda92261cf0001dd87de8
Hell Hammer
01:41:57
are you a teacher by profession ?
Rex Buffchest
01:42:18
Thanks Joe! Great job!
Hell Hammer
01:42:37
very cool!
Daniel Toner
01:42:52
That was a tour de force, Joe!
Hell Hammer
01:45:01
metal continues to keep getting more extreme
Rex Buffchest
01:46:38
There’s also a reaction to extreme in which it’s turned on it head or twisted, hence Oakley-dokely:)
Hell Hammer
01:46:38
someday we'll hear Cannibal Corpse in the elevator
Rex Buffchest
01:46:54
Ha ha! In Muzak form
Hell Hammer
01:47:11
Mac Sabbath
Rex Buffchest
01:47:34
My personal favorite, Austrian death machine
Hell Hammer
01:47:50
Get to the Choppa
Rex Buffchest
01:48:04
Rubber baby buggy bumpers!
Rex Buffchest
01:49:46
Maybe when pop music gets so out of control or some other genera that would drive metal through for the time, maybe as a reaction…
Rex Buffchest
01:51:46
Thanks guys, baby is asleep, I’ll try to make the next class. Have a great rest of your night!
Steven Hanford
01:51:52
Bye Joe