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Rosie
01:07:56
NEXT: Student perceptions of Wikipedia Edit-a-thons: Considering race and gender maxxbeckmann
Phoebe Ayers
01:08:46
yay Cambridge College! I got a chance to work with Rebecca and this is a great initiative.
Kevin Payravi
01:08:55
Back - had to restart Zoom to give it permission to screen share
Rosie
01:09:40
NEXT: Cite Unseen: Latest updates to this script that provides icon indicators for the nature and reliability of sources ~SuperHamster
Mahir Morshed
01:10:37
Has anything about your program been written up before? Are there any links where we can learn more? (any sorts of accounts or posts somewhere?)
Rosie
01:13:43
NEXT: All My Relations: Using Wikidata to find and correct errors on a collaborative global family tree (and on Wikidata) - Genealogy —KarenJoyce
Rebecca Heimel
01:15:10
This is awesome!
Gerald S
01:16:02
this is amazing SuperHamster
Enterprisey
01:16:03
THIS IS COOL AS HECK
Phoebe Ayers
01:16:07
Thanks Rebecca for your talk, great to see you here! You should connect with some of the WM NYC folks who have been educational projects
Phoebe Ayers
01:16:11
*been doing
Isarra
01:16:24
It also just looks cool.
Rebecca Heimel
01:16:26
Thanks Phoebe! I would love to
Jenny
01:16:30
This is amazing! I am interested in how this works for medical sources.
Magnus Sälgö
01:16:38
Good work…. We need much more classification of sources….
Phoebe Ayers
01:16:42
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cite_Unseen
Isarra
01:17:12
Visual indicators also serve a lot to give people an idea what might be going on overall at a quick glance.
Magnus Sälgö
01:17:35
Is there an API?
Wil Fyfordy
01:17:54
Very nice work
Peter Meyer
01:18:05
Amazing, Kevin Payravi!
Rosie
01:18:44
NEXT: Grand unveiling of the Wikimedia DC "2021 U.S. Wiki Science Calendar"! —Antony-22
Magnus Sälgö
01:19:25
I created the Wikitree Wikidata property in 2016!!!
Kevin Payravi
01:19:27
@Magnus No, but all the domain categorizations are in a big JSON you are free to use. I did use Newsligner’s new Sourceror API though, which provides the RSP list in structured format (https://sourceror.org/)
Kevin Payravi
01:19:54
(Cite Seen docs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SuperHamster/CiteUnseen)
Sherry, #AfroCROWDit, AfroCROWD.org, @WikiCari, @NewsWiki1
01:20:48
Nice!
Magnus Sälgö
01:20:49
@Kevin Payravi thanks I I am looking into using ORES to sort articles connected to a good source P4963 maybe we also could check what citations are used….
Richard (Pharos)
01:21:20
a variety of proposals to have something like this on Wikimedia: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_genealogy_project
Kevin Payravi
01:21:21
Very cool Magnus, would love to learn more later.
Kevin Payravi
01:21:35
For reference since someone asked me, the perennial sources list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources (shortcut is WP:RSP)
Paula Marmor
01:22:22
This is great, Karen Joyce - I've used WikiTree in Wikidata before but I didn't know how it worked behind the scenes.
Phoebe Ayers
01:23:04
Next up: Antony-22
Magnus Sälgö
01:23:22
WikiTree I feel WikiTree clean a lot of the Wikidata problems and that is uploaded to Wikidata ==> we get problems on this list https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P2949 with duplicates but I am not sure if some fix those… in Wikidata
Rosie
01:25:09
NEXT: Demo of the latest stuff I'm working on, particularly section-watchlist and its new integration with reply-link. —Enterprisey
KarenJoyce
01:26:56
MAGNUS!!!! You are so instrumental to the success of WikiTree on Wikidata.
Andrew Lih
01:27:48
This is great - we had this idea two years ago and glad to see it xecuted
jshieh
01:28:08
Constraint violations. Occasionally, I found the constraint warning troubling. Reporting on Discuss link takes time to resolve.
Magnus Sälgö
01:28:52
@Karen Aleš Trtnik is the hero…. He has done this sync for ore than 4 years its magic and I hope other sites will do the same…
jim hayes
01:29:12
https://wikimediadc.org/wiki/2021_Wiki_Science_Calendar_Fundraiser
Kevin Payravi
01:29:34
Excited to get my calendar!
Rosie
01:30:20
NEXT: Annual WCNA Group Photo (retake)
Phoebe Ayers
01:30:53
Nothing like a 16 year old bug!!!
Phoebe Ayers
01:30:57
Enterprisey is awesome
Andrew Lih
01:31:18
wuuuuuuut
Andrew Lih
01:31:25
this is rather amazing
Phoebe Ayers
01:31:25
whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Minh Nguyen (mxn)
01:31:25
This is too easy!
Mahir Morshed
01:31:29
oh wow
jim hayes
01:31:55
\o/
Minh Nguyen (mxn)
01:31:55
No more aligning colons!
Andrew Lih
01:31:58
wow nice 2x!
lodewijk
01:32:02
What are the prerequisites to make this work for someone? (What does the wiki need, what do you personally need?)
Mahir Morshed
01:32:18
Have you thought about making this work with Flow discussions?
Andrew Lih
01:32:21
HOW TO ENABLE THIS!
Kevin Payravi
01:32:36
This will be super useful for following all the on-wiki drama boards.
Richard (Pharos)
01:32:47
Kevin++
Andrew Lih
01:34:01
reply link - where have you been all my life!
jim hayes
01:34:05
can we get this as a gadget ??
Gerald S
01:34:33
womderfull
Isarra
01:34:38
I wonder how hard it would be to set these up as globally-importable gadgets...
Spencer Graves
01:34:58
what about us with no hair?
Enterprisey
01:35:33
reply-link only needs translation work, but the Foundation's upcoming DiscussionTools script is, I understand, fully localized
Isarra
01:35:54
Welp, I was too tired to turn my camera on this time. :P
Rosie
01:36:10
An update from the Sustainability Initiative --Gnom
Rosie
01:36:44
NEXT: Overview of the Cochrane-Wikipedia Project —JenOttawa
Richard (Pharos)
01:37:19
I'm back post-baby.
lodewijk
01:38:13
Let me guess… lots of progress on reducing air travel.
Phoebe Ayers
01:38:26
yes but only temporarily :(
Rosie
01:38:50
ANNOUNCEMENT: Please upload your Lightning Talk slidedesk to: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiConference_North_America_2020
Zeljko Blace
01:39:23
:-)))
Joy Panigabutra-Roberts
01:39:34
:)
Sherry, #AfroCROWDit, AfroCROWD.org, @WikiCari, @NewsWiki1
01:39:40
Woohoo!
Zeljko Blace
01:39:43
We need TRANS-LOCAL conferences
Joy Panigabutra-Roberts
01:39:53
I hope to join in BKK in 2022
Polly H
01:39:56
lets all sail to the conferences ;->
Phoebe Ayers
01:40:00
re: virtual meetings - we are all part of the solution RIGHT NOW as we experiment w/ how to run good virtual meetings. So give us your feedback!
Zeljko Blace
01:40:13
#yesYesYES
Zeljko Blace
01:40:22
damn them
Zeljko Blace
01:40:29
terrible
John P. Sadowski
01:40:35
Are other forms of travel more sustainable than air (e.g., rail)?
jim hayes
01:41:05
yeah, we need an endowment report, where they can discuss ESG
Polly H
01:41:24
great work - so urgent and important - thank you!
Peter Meyer
01:41:28
How can we help, Lukas? And what does “screened” mean? They have a criterion, but it’s not high?
Zeljko Blace
01:41:34
brilliant
Kevin Payravi
01:41:53
Great stuff, thanks Lukas
Gergő Tisza
01:41:54
why is travel reduction preferred over carbon offsets? They are relatively cheap and the end result is the same.
Sherry, #AfroCROWDit, AfroCROWD.org, @WikiCari, @NewsWiki1
01:42:00
THanks
Richard (Pharos)
01:42:07
let's have more wikitrains in north america
Andrew Lih
01:42:15
Good point Gergo - would be nice to have a hybrid approach
Phoebe Ayers
01:42:27
Thank you so much to Lukas for doing this work for so long and so thanklessly
carlin
01:42:43
because carbon offsets aren't guaranteed, a lot of them burned in the California fires at the start of this year
Lukas Mezger
01:42:46
Thanks for your comments, I’ll check them out and try to follow up
Phoebe Ayers
01:43:16
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sustainability_Initiative is the meta page
Rosie
01:43:29
NEXT: Black Catholicism wiki -- Natemup
Phoebe Ayers
01:44:07
Also side pitch: if you are interested in improving info about climate change on Wikipedia & our other projects, check out WP:PROCC on the English Wikipedia &/or talk to me or Alex Stinson
jim hayes
01:45:56
@ Gergő offsets are prone to abuse. reduction is real.
Lukas Mezger
01:46:23
Yes, the principle must be to Keep It In The Ground.
Gergő Tisza
01:47:54
I don't think that really answers the why question. Obviously there are a lot of fake / unreliable offsets and we'd have to be careful in choosing the right one. Just like with electricity providers or funds or anything else. Are you saying for carbon offsets that is entirely impossible?
Rosie
01:49:03
NEXT: Wikimedia Canada : Environment and Climate Change Canada Project --Benoit Rochon
jim hayes
01:49:31
@ Gergő here is more info. but we can discuss https://www.vox.com/2020/2/27/20994118/carbon-offset-climate-change-net-zero-neutral-emissions
JP Béland
01:49:42
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Projet_ECCC,_100_ans_de_donn%C3%A9es_m%C3%A9t%C3%A9orologiques_en_acc%C3%A8s_libre/en
Phoebe Ayers
01:50:17
ooooh this is really cool - weather data
Phoebe Ayers
01:50:35
one of the kinds of data that should belong to all & is irreplaceable - you only get to measure the weather once!
Rosie
01:50:45
NEXT: Overview of the Namespace Database project —carlinmack
Polly H
01:51:01
agreed - weather data should be open access
Minh Nguyen (mxn)
01:51:14
The Commons Data: namespace has been used pretty extensively for COVID data too. Very useful option.
Mahir Morshed
01:52:02
There are definitely lots of time series in Wikidata that should be moved to the Commons Data: namespace, but until phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181319 is resolved the stuff in the Data: namespace will not be queriable
Mahir Morshed
01:52:49
(so we can't actually generate nice charts based on the Canadian weather data using query.wikidata.org at the moment...)
Spencer Graves
01:52:59
Why upload data to Commons, not Wikidata?
sathya
01:53:08
Thanks Benoit. How does one access this data? Any sandbox etc?
JP Béland
01:53:46
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data:Environment_Canada/Weather/Bagotville_A_(7060400)/Monthly/Bagotville_A_(7060400)_Monthly.tab
Minh Nguyen (mxn)
01:55:03
Tabular data in Commons is accessible to other wikis via Lua modules and templates, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Tabular_query
JP Béland
01:55:20
next phase of the project is to make templated on Wikipedias to use those data
Jan Ainali
01:55:22
The WikiGap 2018 was a collabaoration with the Swedish Ministry for Foreign Affairs and was inaugurated by the minister herself
JP Béland
01:55:25
templates*
Phoebe Ayers
01:56:31
Thanks Benoit! So cool
Peter Meyer
01:58:37
@Spencer: the data files are files, not arranged like Wikidata items. They have the extension .tab
Isarra
01:58:47
Okay, I'm falling off the awake wagon, y'all lovely, good night and thank you to everyone making this all happen and taking the time to share your cool stuff.
JP Béland
01:58:56
to continue the discussion on the weather data projects, you can also join us on WMCA Telegram group: https://t.me/WMCADiscuss
Peter Meyer
01:59:43
Wow! Sharp info on talk page posts
Minh Nguyen (mxn)
02:00:55
Striking plot!
Rosie
02:00:59
NEXT: Overview of OpenStreetMap's Mapping Racism project and how it uses Wikidata. – Minh Nguyễn
Enterprisey
02:01:07
this is MEGA COOL
Gergő Tisza
02:01:26
that's a great visualisation.
sathya
02:01:43
That retention chart was a great one
sathya
02:02:10
Tells us that - folks who joined around 2006 stayed on significantly, not so much about folks between 2010 and 2014
Lukas Mezger
02:02:10
stupid question, sorry: but where’s Carlin’s accent from? It sounds really cool.
Akiko I.
02:02:10
I 'm one of those 2006ers...
Kevin Payravi
02:02:31
Very cool!
carlin
02:02:44
Aberdeen, Scotland!
Kevin Payravi
02:02:52
More Ohio!
Zeljko Blace
02:03:06
this is funny regime
carlin
02:03:36
thanks everyone! links:Github with the source code of the tool: https://github.com/carlinmack/NamespaceDatabaseLink to the 30 best plots: https://carlinmack.com/blog/p/wikipediaplots/
Rosie
02:03:54
NEXT: Status report of Wikimedia in Outer Atmosphere— by Geraldshields11
sathya
02:04:29
Thanks Carlin. Would love to read those charts. Thanks for sharing.
Jonathunder
02:04:42
Would love to see an extended update next year on some of these short presentations.
Robbie Hott
02:05:34
Agreed!
Jon /User: Frenezulo
02:07:30
Is there a legend for the colors of the dots?
Kevin Payravi
02:09:15
Awesome job Minh
Rebecca Heimel
02:09:25
Minh thank you! Will you share links?
Lane Rasberry
02:09:45
👏🗺
Minh Nguyen (mxn)
02:09:58
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/Racism
Lane Rasberry
02:10:00
🚀🌌
Polly H
02:11:04
boom!
Dan Eldridge
02:11:21
Great talk Minh!
Phoebe Ayers
02:12:29
whoa there it goes
Phoebe Ayers
02:12:36
and yes, great talk Minh, thank you!
Emery (Blervis)
02:12:48
Is that a pottery barn?
Benoit
02:13:50
This community is sooo cool !
Phoebe Ayers
02:13:59
that's amazing
Joy Panigabutra-Roberts
02:14:08
Flypedia
Peter Meyer
02:14:55
A space station person edited a NASA wiki from space this fall. I can find the tweet about it.
Daniel Bethe
02:15:20
My quality standard for writing on Wikipedia has ALWAYS BEEN that it should deserve to be shot into space to be discovered by the alien overlords. Even if it’s about dead 1990s operating systems and video games.
Enterprisey
02:15:30
what a message
Kevin Leeson
02:15:33
https://twitter.com/AstroKatie/status/1196441020457766913
Richard (Pharos)
02:15:43
or dream small, depending on your tesla
Rosie
02:15:53
Overview of some outstanding user scripts that everyone should install. (Rejected title: "The best scripts I didn't make".) (Put this talk after some other talks, so I don't give two in a row; feel free to cut this one if time is an issue, I can just speak real fast for one slot.) Enterprisey
Peter Meyer
02:16:00
Woo hoo! Thank you @Kevin Leeson
Peter Meyer
02:16:12
Can we pick who is in the roadster that is launched into space?
Minh Nguyen (mxn)
02:16:38
Does that Roadster have a QID yet?
Daniel Bethe
02:16:39
All of us! They should launch today’s group photo.
Jonathunder
02:17:30
To drive a Roadster that small, it would have to be someone with very tiny hands
Rosie
02:17:34
Natemup: are you here to present on “Black Catholicism”?
Polly H
02:17:40
this is very helpful -thanks!
Rosie
02:17:59
SHISHIR DUA: Are you here, and if so, what is the topic of your Lightning Talk?
Linda Fletcher Dabo
02:18:13
Can you post link on Chat.
Kevin Li (User:L235)
02:18:39
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/sandbox5
Lane Rasberry
02:18:50
🐱🐱🐱
Lane Rasberry
02:18:59
HotCat!
Gerald S
02:19:01
thank you everyone, i must leave for now. See all of you soon.
Kevin Li (User:L235)
02:19:04
you can enable the ones that are "gadgets" by name in Preferences
Phoebe Ayers
02:19:28
Thank You Gerald, that was such a nice ending note
Phoebe Ayers
02:19:32
and so cool
Rosie
02:19:46
I love Rater!!
Phoebe Ayers
02:19:58
notepad?!?????
Phoebe Ayers
02:20:17
I <3 hotcat
Minh Nguyen (mxn)
02:20:28
HotCat changed my Commons life.
Rosie
02:20:39
I love HotCat!
Akiko I.
02:20:41
Would appreciate the link to access all of this, missed the first part
Mahir Morshed
02:20:44
yay hotcat
Kevin Li (User:L235)
02:20:51
notepad has been almost kept a secret, it's used so infrequently, and it is BEAUTIFUL - everyone should get it
Kevin Li (User:L235)
02:20:57
you get private notes
carlin
02:21:00
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/sandbox5
Mahir Morshed
02:21:01
@Akiko I. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/sandbox5
Richard (Pharos)
02:21:21
How is there a notepad? That's amazing.
Phoebe Ayers
02:21:34
Pharos: I know!
Kevin Payravi
02:21:52
👏 👏 👏
Kevin Li (User:L235)
02:21:54
@Richard it users mw.user.options which is a private space per user scripts can access stored with your preferences
Daniel Bethe
02:22:30
Private notes, cool, is there a way to save drafts? To attach a sandbox to a real article, so that I can draft it for a while without losing it to a browser crash until I decide to publish it? And delete the draft when I’m done.
Gergő Tisza
02:22:57
note that user options get included into every pageview. So if you overuse them, the wiki might get a little slower for you.
Rosie
02:23:05
NEXT: Terrible interface. -Kevin Li
Enterprisey
02:23:21
GOOD POINT
Richard (Pharos)
02:23:23
there should be a smile on this page
Enterprisey
02:23:30
you tell 'em kevin
Phoebe Ayers
02:23:37
"Terrible interface for blocked users" - Kevin
Kevin Payravi
02:23:40
Perhaps a laughing emoji?
Phoebe Ayers
02:23:42
Great point!!
Polly H
02:23:45
great idea
Kevin Payravi
02:23:46
“You have been blocked! 😂"
Lukas Mezger
02:23:51
So cool!
Jon /User: Frenezulo
02:23:54
Good idea!
Minh Nguyen (mxn)
02:23:55
A side of Wikipedia most of us have (hopefully) never seen. Thanks for letting us know about this blind spot!
KarenJoyce
02:23:58
@Kevin Payrahi mwa ha ha
Wil Fyfordy
02:23:59
Great idea~
Mahir Morshed
02:24:06
The "Most people who see this message" makes sense for IP ranges, but not sure whether it applies to user account blocks
Kevin Payravi
02:24:12
This is great Kev
Richard (Pharos)
02:24:18
nice edit, Kevin P!
Kevin Li (User:L235)
02:24:25
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:L235
Alan Wu
02:25:06
Great improvement to onboard new editors who make a mistake!
Lane Rasberry
02:26:00
🐕
Jonathunder
02:26:00
Or were caught in someone else's mistake
Linda Fletcher Dabo
02:26:09
It happened to me being blocked twice uploading my own images on my phone.
Kevin Payravi
02:26:11
Great job everyone
Polly H
02:26:21
great talks!
Enterprisey
02:26:25
great talks, everyone
Richard (Pharos)
02:26:35
8pm Eastern is closing reception in wonder lounge lounge.wcna.wiki
Joy Panigabutra-Roberts
02:26:39
This is my first WikiConference North America. Thanks so much for the ideas and rich content shared during this conference.
Sherry, #AfroCROWDit, AfroCROWD.org, @WikiCari, @NewsWiki1
02:26:40
What will the reception involve?
Mahir Morshed
02:27:19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Pharos
Gergő Tisza
02:27:21
what were the triangle-like plots in @carlinmack's slides? Are those normal scatter plots with color? Would really like to steal that for other wikis
Jonathunder
02:27:38
Latkes
Minh Nguyen (mxn)
02:27:46
Folks who spoke today: it’d be great if you could upload your slides, or if like me you were unprepared and just had a bunch of tabs open, if you could share a link somewhere on the WCNA Meta pages so people can catch up later.
carlin
02:28:13
@gergo Figure 38 here https://carlinmack.com/blog/p/wikipediaplots/
Andrew Lih
02:28:17
can still sign up for open space
Akiko I.
02:28:26
Thanks all, see you tomorrow
Andrew Lih
02:28:27
open space slots still open
Mark
02:28:29
Thanks to everyone, that was fun.
carlin
02:28:45
they are inspired from OSM plots from their conference in 2018, can share them too later
Clifford Anderson
02:28:46
Thanks, everybody! Great talks today!
Andrew Lih
02:28:48
https://lounge.wcna.wiki
Wil Fyfordy
02:29:25
Thank you for hosting this!
carlin
02:29:26
@gergo I can share code too, it's all open source